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gregg: this lawmakers do not reach a deal with regard to the fiscal cliff cuts will go into the defense department. >> reporter: the whole package of spending cuts is $1.2 trillion, half to the defense department. the army, navy, air force marines would take equal cuts according to one analyst who says the impact on the military overall will be, quote, very serious. >> the pentagon and the departments are already in financial trouble, because there has already been a $480 billion cut that is being applied right now as we speak. to take another cut on top of that is devastating. >> reporter: it's not just the military itself that will take a hit, also the defense industry, defense contractors, private companies that do work for the pentagon. one democratic congressman in northern virginia whose district maybe hit the hardest by all of this says it could mean layoffs. >> the large defense contractors will probably be okay, they have significant cash reserves, most of them. the smaller contractors would have trouble getting their lines of credit extended, trouble keeping their employees, i
gregg: this lawmakers do not reach a deal with regard to the fiscal cliff cuts will go into the defense department. >> reporter: the whole package of spending cuts is $1.2 trillion, half to the defense department. the army, navy, air force marines would take equal cuts according to one analyst who says the impact on the military overall will be, quote, very serious. >> the pentagon and the departments are already in financial trouble, because there has already been a $480 billion...
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part of the looming fiscal cliff includes a painful dose of automatic spending cuts that would kick in just a few days from now. our military would be on the receiving end of a lot of it. a half trillion dollars in cuts over the next decade. it has a fancy name. it is called see -- sequestration. many warn of job losses and even the impact on the national security. now, the news on this from washington. >> harris, last friday when president obama rolled out his new plan for steering us away from the fiscal cliff there was a word he did not say. that word was sequester. it would cut $100 billion from the budget next year, half from domestic programs and half from defense programs. and now as the deadline draws close, experts are look at these cuts from a national security standpoint and warning one final time about their impact on the safety of our service members. >> it is going to affect the operational force that is deployed in terms of its you ability to maintain its equipment and get repair parts. that force is deployed around the world. it is not just the force in afghanistan that
part of the looming fiscal cliff includes a painful dose of automatic spending cuts that would kick in just a few days from now. our military would be on the receiving end of a lot of it. a half trillion dollars in cuts over the next decade. it has a fancy name. it is called see -- sequestration. many warn of job losses and even the impact on the national security. now, the news on this from washington. >> harris, last friday when president obama rolled out his new plan for steering us...
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downgrade in the consumer confidence numbers but you have to admit, it's the fiscal cliff, the debt clock stuff. i don't blame them. >> reporter: yeah. people think the general public is oblivious and not paying attention. they want to blow off the fact people are bored about hearing about the fiscal cliff but the reality is that 98% of americans will be affected and will see taxes go up if we go over the cliff at the end of the year. this consumer confidence number is an indication of what economist have been warning if we go over the cliff and enter into a new recession in 2013. that consumer confidence number down 6 points to just over 65. you know as well as i do this is a big change in the overall trend we had been seeing of improving consumer confidence. so as we near the fiscal cliff and near the end of the year, folks are buckling up, didn't spend as much as christmastime and we depend on the spending for economic growth. it's the engine of economic growth and all fingers point to another recession. >> eric: yesterday we got indication the retail sales for christmas were bad. toda
downgrade in the consumer confidence numbers but you have to admit, it's the fiscal cliff, the debt clock stuff. i don't blame them. >> reporter: yeah. people think the general public is oblivious and not paying attention. they want to blow off the fact people are bored about hearing about the fiscal cliff but the reality is that 98% of americans will be affected and will see taxes go up if we go over the cliff at the end of the year. this consumer confidence number is an indication of...
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. >> the fiscal cliff isn't the only looming deadline. geithner is warning the nation will hit their debt ceiling on new year's eve. how will it impact your wallet? we are joined by rich edson. nice to see you. what will it mean for everyone? >> if you are borrowing money that could be problem matt ag. analysts say if we surpass the debt ceiling, and the pressurery department can do accounting and buy us a little more time, about $200 billion more time. but if we do surpass that point, interest rates would go up if you are looking to borrow money. money invested in the stock market, analysts predict worldwide markets would have major problems. if you get payments from the government in any form, whether paidfy the government, whether your job is involve in the government or if you get social security checks, if you get veterans benefits, if your government pace your healthcare, all of that could be at risk if there's not enough money or borrowing authority to pay the bills. >> you mentioned the word extraordinary circumstances. what a nic
. >> the fiscal cliff isn't the only looming deadline. geithner is warning the nation will hit their debt ceiling on new year's eve. how will it impact your wallet? we are joined by rich edson. nice to see you. what will it mean for everyone? >> if you are borrowing money that could be problem matt ag. analysts say if we surpass the debt ceiling, and the pressurery department can do accounting and buy us a little more time, about $200 billion more time. but if we do surpass that...
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part of the looming fiscal cliff includes a painful dose of automatic spending cuts that would kick in just a few days from now. our military would be on the receiving end of a lot of it. a half trillion dollars in cuts over the next decade. it has a fancy name. it is called see -- sequestration. many warn of job losses and even the impact on the national security. now, the news on this from washington. >> harris, last friday when president obama rolled out his new plan for steering us away from the fiscal cliff there was a word he did not say. that word was sequester. it would cut $100 billion from the budget next year, half from domestic programs and half from defense programs. and now as the deadline draws close, experts are look at these cuts from a national security standpoint and warning one final time about their impact on the safety of our service members. >> it is going to affect the operational force that is deployed in terms of its you ability to maintain its equipment and get repair parts. that force is deployed around the world. it is not just the force in afghanistan that
part of the looming fiscal cliff includes a painful dose of automatic spending cuts that would kick in just a few days from now. our military would be on the receiving end of a lot of it. a half trillion dollars in cuts over the next decade. it has a fancy name. it is called see -- sequestration. many warn of job losses and even the impact on the national security. now, the news on this from washington. >> harris, last friday when president obama rolled out his new plan for steering us...
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if we're going to cut the size and scope of government perhaps we should go over the fiscal cliff so people will understand government spending is out of control and may start to ask questions being asked at the kitchen tables of every family, why we see christmas sales so low. they're saying how do we make major purchases? people are cutting back in personal lives, they want got to do the same. something else is playing into christmas sales being low. christmas itself is under attack. a lot of christian conservatives believe that if we're going to say happy holiday, perhaps those that think it's any other holiday should support the economy and they're not buying the gifts they used to buy. they do christian efforts locally in churches and talk to families about other things than gifts. >> we always say merry christmas here but stay on this here. if we do go over the fiscal cliff, yes, taxes will go up. molly outlined how much for every income level across the board. >> very hard. >> down the road, isn't it the only way we get our fiscal house back in order? >> that's what i'm hearin
if we're going to cut the size and scope of government perhaps we should go over the fiscal cliff so people will understand government spending is out of control and may start to ask questions being asked at the kitchen tables of every family, why we see christmas sales so low. they're saying how do we make major purchases? people are cutting back in personal lives, they want got to do the same. something else is playing into christmas sales being low. christmas itself is under attack. a lot of...
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he cut his hawaiian vacation short to get back to the white house for any possible last minute fiscal cliff meetings and it appears there will be one tomorrow. harris? >> well, what kind of response is the president getting from lawmakers at this point? >> well, senate republicans say they are willing to listen to any ideas the president has as to how to find a way forward. here is more. >> last night i told the president we would be happy to look at whatever he proposes. but the truth is we are coming up against a hard deadline here. and as i said, this is a conversation we should have is had months ago. and republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> the senate is in session and this is the first time either the house or senate has been in session for legislative business between christmas and new year's since 1970. harris? >> harris: not to put too fine a point on, it i guess it is politics, i don't know. saw what looks like a bit of taunting teen the top senate democrat and th
he cut his hawaiian vacation short to get back to the white house for any possible last minute fiscal cliff meetings and it appears there will be one tomorrow. harris? >> well, what kind of response is the president getting from lawmakers at this point? >> well, senate republicans say they are willing to listen to any ideas the president has as to how to find a way forward. here is more. >> last night i told the president we would be happy to look at whatever he proposes. but...
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the looming fiscal cliff. it is a brand new hour of "america's newsroom," hello, everyone, i'm patti ann brown. gregg: and i'm gregg jarrett. lawmakers are -- republican lawmakers are returning to washington, d.c., and they are trying to negotiate something, anything with the house. both sides saying that a few days to cool off over the holiday might be helpful, but there are no signs they're closer to a deal. patti ann: chief white house correspondent ed henry joining us now live in honolulu, hawaii. so, ed, what is the latest? any progress to tell us about? >> reporter: or well, patti ann, really no progress. as gregg was saying, a lot of people thought, well, a cooling-off period, the holidays, maybe this'll get everybody to work together, the president even joking last week about figuring out a way to move all of this forward, but we've been told by white house officials there have been no real phone calls between the president and speaker boehner over the last few days, very little staff contact. so the b
the looming fiscal cliff. it is a brand new hour of "america's newsroom," hello, everyone, i'm patti ann brown. gregg: and i'm gregg jarrett. lawmakers are -- republican lawmakers are returning to washington, d.c., and they are trying to negotiate something, anything with the house. both sides saying that a few days to cool off over the holiday might be helpful, but there are no signs they're closer to a deal. patti ann: chief white house correspondent ed henry joining us now live in...
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if we go over that fiscal cliff, that triggers fears of automatic spending cuts, and we are just looking at the defense piece today. the pentagon will face a cut of $492 billion. that is about a half trillion dollars over nine years. that works out to about a 55 billion-dollar cut per year, starting next year, 2013. defense analysts say this on top of hundreds of additional cuts already in place for defense will be devastating to the military. >> it is going to affect the operational force that is its livelihood to get it equipment and not just the force in afghanistan that is being reduced. it would impact the training as well. reporter: there is a large defense industry will also be hit. private companies may not get government contracts to keep them in business. >> severe budget cuts could literally put national security at risk if the companies that make the f-35 fighter jet or nuclear submarines or artillery pieces don't have the money and have to lay off work force and close facilities. reporter: jim moran said his district, right outside of washington, home to many who work in the
if we go over that fiscal cliff, that triggers fears of automatic spending cuts, and we are just looking at the defense piece today. the pentagon will face a cut of $492 billion. that is about a half trillion dollars over nine years. that works out to about a 55 billion-dollar cut per year, starting next year, 2013. defense analysts say this on top of hundreds of additional cuts already in place for defense will be devastating to the military. >> it is going to affect the operational...
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the only way to fix that is go over the fiscal cliff 'cause clearly democrats don't want to cut spending. they'll have to be forced into that and the only way that happens is hit the sequestration, the things that the fiscal cliff will bring of the that's why. i'll take the medicine, the pain now for a healthier economy going forward. >> kelly: there are a lot of economists who agree because they're saying if we go through this, it will be pain for everybody, 2,000, $4,000 added to our tax for the next year or so. and potentially, after that we will rebound and all those automatic spending cuts will go into effect. >> juliet: we've been following this drama involving hobby lobby. the company plans to defy a federal mandate that came out. it required it to offer the morning after pill. and hobby lobby, the owners of the company say, but they don't want to do that. it defies what they believe. they're going to be defying this order. they're going to risk fines of up to $1.3 million per day because they said on principle, we can not do this. >> kelly: here is the reason why. they're a faith
the only way to fix that is go over the fiscal cliff 'cause clearly democrats don't want to cut spending. they'll have to be forced into that and the only way that happens is hit the sequestration, the things that the fiscal cliff will bring of the that's why. i'll take the medicine, the pain now for a healthier economy going forward. >> kelly: there are a lot of economists who agree because they're saying if we go through this, it will be pain for everybody, 2,000, $4,000 added to our...
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we have the fiscal cliff and the debt ceiling and again, that remains a problem and any deal that ignores spending is no real solution and just punts and makes it more difficult down the road. >> how do you get leverage negotiating around the debt ceiling, it is the second time in two year we have blown past the ceiling but no one cares? there is no leverage? >>guest: the bad debt deal creates the situation today 17 months ago and we will face that again in a couple of months but i hope, the last thing remembers want to do is have any say on the potential deal. we will hear the details in the next couple of hours and get final details out to us but it looks like three strikes going the wrong direction and that is frankly what most of my constituents feared washington would do, ignore the real problems and say they have solved it and go home for the new year and that, again, that does not solve the spending problem here in our capitol. >> congressman, we appreciate your take. thank you. >> hours to go before the new year and the market could be closed rallying 166 points today but there ar
we have the fiscal cliff and the debt ceiling and again, that remains a problem and any deal that ignores spending is no real solution and just punts and makes it more difficult down the road. >> how do you get leverage negotiating around the debt ceiling, it is the second time in two year we have blown past the ceiling but no one cares? there is no leverage? >>guest: the bad debt deal creates the situation today 17 months ago and we will face that again in a couple of months but i...
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obama making remarks about the fiscal cliff aired it earlier today. he put much of the blame on shoulders of the republicans if no deal is reached. the gop fired back saying the president should lead right now not cast blame. correspondent s henry is live from the white house. >> he is frustrated going on a talk show today in the middle of the negotiations. he has not been on one of the programs since 2009. he felt it was important to get the message out there. you are right he was pounding the same message again and again f. we go up the fiscal cliff for not meeting them halfway. >>> not because democrats and congre congre congress don't want to go ahead and cooperate but i think it has been hard for speaker boehner and republican mcconnell to accept the fact taxes on wealthiest should go up a little bit sweas well as a deficit reduction package. if they can't say yes to good offers i have an obligation to make sure the entire burden of deficit reduction doesn't fall on seniors who are relying on medicare. >> republicans are expressing frustration sa
obama making remarks about the fiscal cliff aired it earlier today. he put much of the blame on shoulders of the republicans if no deal is reached. the gop fired back saying the president should lead right now not cast blame. correspondent s henry is live from the white house. >> he is frustrated going on a talk show today in the middle of the negotiations. he has not been on one of the programs since 2009. he felt it was important to get the message out there. you are right he was...
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i understand even if they reach a deal on the fiscal cliff, there are already defense cuts that will hurt anyway. >> that's right. those decisions have been made. what's so disappointing about this deal being constructed here, and hopefully there is one, is the fact sequestration is not on the table. that is going to take place anyway. we look at the readiness of our forces and readiness is a word that describes the preparedness to fight effectively and that he is what americans should remember. we look at one, do we have the people, and are they qualified with the appropriate skill sets, enlisted and officer. do we have the repair parts and maintenance hours to fix the equipment that we have and then are we able to train effectively with that with the amount of hours and time needed to do that. all of that would be cut back significantly, so the readiness of this force, its ability to fight is what i'm saying, would go down markedly. and also there's going to be significant morale impact to the force because all of the services on bases would be cut to include repair and maintenance
i understand even if they reach a deal on the fiscal cliff, there are already defense cuts that will hurt anyway. >> that's right. those decisions have been made. what's so disappointing about this deal being constructed here, and hopefully there is one, is the fact sequestration is not on the table. that is going to take place anyway. we look at the readiness of our forces and readiness is a word that describes the preparedness to fight effectively and that he is what americans should...
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back from the edge of the fiscal cliff. and welcome to a brand new hour of "america live," i'm heather childers. gregg: and i'm gregg jarrett, megyn is off today. senate lawmakers also cutting short their holiday break. the real sticking point is in all of this has been the president's proposed tax hike. both sides suggesting a cooling-off period was necessary before getting back to business, but the word from both democrats and republicans today, nothing has changed. chief white house correspondent ed henry is in beautiful honolulu. aloha, ed. [laughter] >> reporter: aloha. [laughter] well, it's interesting pause you say the sticking point -- because you say the sticking point is taxes going up, which is true, but the other big one will be spending cuts because the latest offer, we've been through plan a which was that $4 trillion debt deal, plan b which fell apart on speaker john boehner last week, now we're basically on plan c which president obama says would be dealing with short-term issues like two million people who
back from the edge of the fiscal cliff. and welcome to a brand new hour of "america live," i'm heather childers. gregg: and i'm gregg jarrett, megyn is off today. senate lawmakers also cutting short their holiday break. the real sticking point is in all of this has been the president's proposed tax hike. both sides suggesting a cooling-off period was necessary before getting back to business, but the word from both democrats and republicans today, nothing has changed. chief white...
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the senate cut a deal to solve the fiscal cliff but what are the chances of passing the house? that analysis is next. >> there is a completely separate tax hike that goes into effect today. another $1 trillion thanks to obamacare. what it means for your health and wallet. >>> "fox and friends" live from new york city 2013. >> and washington, d.c. ♪ i gave birth to my daughter on may 18th, five days later, i had a massive heart attack. bayer aspirin was the first thing the emts gave me. now, i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. [ woman ] learn from my story. marie callender's turkey breast with stuffing is a great reason to slow down. creamy mash potatoes, homestyle gravy and 320 calories. marie callender's. it's time to savor. every signature is unique, and every fingerprint unrepeatable. at sleep number, we've always recognized the incredible diversity of human beings, and know that up there with your social security number and your phone number is another important number. your sleep number. s
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when they say cut spending, mean it. >> mean it. >> efficient the fiscal cliff, it should be called the obama cliff and swan dive over it. good idea or bad idea? >> yeah. i think that would be part of accepting all the consequences and letting the chips fall where they need to fall. but i think what the house republicans need to do especially, knowing that they had whatever mandate they did have after the election, house to be the opposition party, to stand for core limited government principles and not sell us down the river. particularly all the small business operators and entrepreneurs trying']jñ to kep their head above water. >> thank you very much. have great weekend. >> you too. >>> we have senate minority leader mitch mcconnell existing the meeting now. we're going to keep our eye out and hopefully one of these guys comes to a camera. in the watch it. former president george bush bush remains in intensive care but good news regarding his condition. we'll have the latest from outside his houston hospital coming up next. share everything. share brotherly love. share one up's. mo
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vacation short to deal with the dreaded fiscal cliff. with just six days until the deadline, some lawmakers say it might be too late. and that's next. so, this board gives me rates for progressive direct and other car insurance companies? yes. but you're progressive, and they're them. yes. but they're here. yes. are you...? there? yes. no. are you them? i'm me. but those rates are for... them. so them are here. yes! you want to run through it again? no, i'm good. you got it? yes. rates for us and them -- now that's progressive. call or click today. from the president cutting his holiday vacation in hawaii short to get back to work on avoiding the fiscal cliff. the white house says the president is set to return to the nation's capital tomorrow morning to try to hammer out a deal where lawmakers on stopping automatic tax hikes and deep spending cuts from kicking in, which is set to happen, if you're not watching the calendar, six days from now. if they don't reach a deal many say it could send the country right back into recession. ed hen
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with top lawmakers struggling to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff americans bracing for automatic tax hikes if no agreement is reached before tuesday. with higher taxes would come automatic spending cuts in the new year. the pentagon bearing the bridgeport of th -- brunt of te cuts. sunday expected to be a big day with negotiations reaching a key point with a possible vote on something by the senate. >>> soldiers in mexico discovered a smuggling tunnel heading straight toward our border. they steve an anonymous tip. it was behind a wall in a home equipped with lighting and vent lakes and stretched for 120-yards. longer than a football field. but it didn't pass the u.s. border. police believe smugglers were building the tunnel to bring drugs into arizona. i'm marianne rafferty. now, back to" the five ." for the latest headlines log on to fox news .com. ["sail away" playing]. >> that song just gave me chills. general norman sworts coff pass away at the age of 78 after complications of pneumonia. he was known as storming norman, in the u.s. coalition in desert storm. only 78 years old. l
with top lawmakers struggling to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff americans bracing for automatic tax hikes if no agreement is reached before tuesday. with higher taxes would come automatic spending cuts in the new year. the pentagon bearing the bridgeport of th -- brunt of te cuts. sunday expected to be a big day with negotiations reaching a key point with a possible vote on something by the senate. >>> soldiers in mexico discovered a smuggling tunnel heading straight toward our...
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swan dive off the fiscal cliff, hold your nose. we're going off. president obama wants to us go off hecht will come back with a largeer plan. the obama tax cut. then he will be able to reintate across-the-board sequestration cuts. 8.2% across the board. cut defense and health. they will be able to reintate a lot of programs and give his caucus the opportunity to say look, i am voting for something. i am voting to restore tax cuts for the middle class. voting to restore great thin things. republicans are in a tough position. no one will say vote to restore the tax cut for rich. this is his game plan from day one. >> eric: what is the a terptive? $250,000 and above? we see obama not oftenning cuts at all. looking for spending. >> kimberly: managing the message very well. conciliatory. >> andrea: boehner did -- boehner has taken heat. in his defense he has taken a ton of flak on this. he has given a terrible hand of cards. but he came to the table. he tried to at least bring something to the floor. mitch mcconnell knows he can't pass anything, any tax
swan dive off the fiscal cliff, hold your nose. we're going off. president obama wants to us go off hecht will come back with a largeer plan. the obama tax cut. then he will be able to reintate across-the-board sequestration cuts. 8.2% across the board. cut defense and health. they will be able to reintate a lot of programs and give his caucus the opportunity to say look, i am voting for something. i am voting to restore tax cuts for the middle class. voting to restore great thin things....
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with top lawmakers struggling as we speak to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff, americans now bracing for automatic tax hikes that a will kick in if no agreement is reached. with higher taxes would come automatic spending cuts in the near. the pentagon facing the deepest cuts, so called sequestration. some experts say it would harm national security. tomorrow a big day with negotiations reaching a key point with a possible vote on something by the senate. keep it here on fox for the latest. >>> no break for travelers. new storm system hitting the northeast now as much of the nation recovers from a winter storm from earlier this week. the new system bringing wind, snow, freezing temperatures, already causing flight delays and making driving hazardous. boston could see heavy snowfall tonight, one inch per hour. i'm harris faulkner. now, let's get you back to "the five." for all of the headlines when you want them, fox news .com. ["sail away" playing]. >> that song just gave me chills. general norman sworts coff pass away at the age of 78 after complications of pneumonia. he was known as
with top lawmakers struggling as we speak to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff, americans now bracing for automatic tax hikes that a will kick in if no agreement is reached. with higher taxes would come automatic spending cuts in the near. the pentagon facing the deepest cuts, so called sequestration. some experts say it would harm national security. tomorrow a big day with negotiations reaching a key point with a possible vote on something by the senate. keep it here on fox for the latest....
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up and it wouldn't help the medicare fiscal cliff. we need to do both and the president has to lead it it and if he does i'm ready to work with him and so are a lot of other republicans and democrats. >> lamar alexander demanding presidential leadership but also making that point that it's not just about taxes. it's also about spending, harris. >> harris: you and ed talk about -- you and i talk about the fact that we don't want to put too fine a point on the fact that there is acting that goes along with politics. what about the president's tone today? it sounded like he was angry. >> oh, yeah. i think from reading his body language and hearing his words as i have over these many years. you have to put into context of frustration he is feeling going back to the debt ceiling debate a year and a half ago. two summers ago where he felt and he said it then and he said it again today in another context that these are self-inflicted wounds to the economy that he thinks the republicans held him hostage on the debt ceiling a year and a half a
up and it wouldn't help the medicare fiscal cliff. we need to do both and the president has to lead it it and if he does i'm ready to work with him and so are a lot of other republicans and democrats. >> lamar alexander demanding presidential leadership but also making that point that it's not just about taxes. it's also about spending, harris. >> harris: you and ed talk about -- you and i talk about the fact that we don't want to put too fine a point on the fact that there is...
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fiscal cliff negotiations with congress. talks fell apart before christmas. the deadline now is just days away and there is no deal in sight to avoid the tax hikes and spending cuts set to go into effect january 1st. our juan williams is a fox news political analyst and he joins us today and very quickly, juan, merry christmas to you. >> merry christmas, kelly. kelly: this is daunting task facing congress to avert the so-called fiscal cliff that will set into motion more than $600 billion in drastic and draconian allic tax hikes and spending cuts. that will cause a lot of pain for all americans and does congress have enough time to act on this? >> they do. you know it will be very close and it may in fact go beyond the deadline per se although people are thinking at the moment it is possible to get something done by the end of this week. the key here, kelly, is the senate. we have been so focused on the house, speaker boehner, plan. about, plan b falling apart. now speaker boehner is pointing towards the senate and the white
fiscal cliff negotiations with congress. talks fell apart before christmas. the deadline now is just days away and there is no deal in sight to avoid the tax hikes and spending cuts set to go into effect january 1st. our juan williams is a fox news political analyst and he joins us today and very quickly, juan, merry christmas to you. >> merry christmas, kelly. kelly: this is daunting task facing congress to avert the so-called fiscal cliff that will set into motion more than $600 billion...
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let's remind people what this fiscal cliff is really all about. we're talking about automatic tax cuts that will go into place as well as drastic, draconian cuts in entitlement programs, medicare, and even the military. the military can suffer very greatly if this goes through the sequestration. if you look at all this, you realize something has got to be done, because $2,000 per average taxpayer will be added to them over the course of this year if they fail to do something, what is going to happen? what is your prediction, brad? >> well, my prediction is, that we're likely to go over the cliff because the president also knows, kelly, in 2013 any deal made then can be retroactive to january 1st. so the draconian cuts we're talking about can be wiped away with the stroke of a pen should a deal be made. i believe the president believes he is in stronger position if he deal doesn't go through now because he believes he will have better leverage in january. kelly: sear lena? >> he has better leverage i agree with brad about that. he can come to congr
let's remind people what this fiscal cliff is really all about. we're talking about automatic tax cuts that will go into place as well as drastic, draconian cuts in entitlement programs, medicare, and even the military. the military can suffer very greatly if this goes through the sequestration. if you look at all this, you realize something has got to be done, because $2,000 per average taxpayer will be added to them over the course of this year if they fail to do something, what is going to...
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by the way, that is why we are facing this new fiscal cliff. it is infuriating to business owners. i have been talking to a lot of them last couple of weeks. this is banana republic type of politics. no one knows what it will look like. it makes it impossible for businesses to do planning, purchasing equipment, hiring workers. you are seeing the impact on the stock market already where we have a lousy 10 days with stocks because everybody is in this kind of state of fear and trepidation that we are going to go over this cliff. i will give you a sliver of good news, i talked to some of my sources in the republican leadership and they say that the president sounded a little bit more conciliatory in this last phone call that they had. and they still hold out hope that we might get a deal before the stroke of midnight. and the ball comes down in new york. gregg: you are talking about huge amounts of tax increases. you know, some people, i have e-mails -- i was loaded with e-mails yesterday from folks. firefighters and teachers, i'm going to see 15,000, $20,000 of my hard earned money.
by the way, that is why we are facing this new fiscal cliff. it is infuriating to business owners. i have been talking to a lot of them last couple of weeks. this is banana republic type of politics. no one knows what it will look like. it makes it impossible for businesses to do planning, purchasing equipment, hiring workers. you are seeing the impact on the stock market already where we have a lousy 10 days with stocks because everybody is in this kind of state of fear and trepidation that we...
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harris: president obama cutting his vacation short to avoid the fiscal cliff but house speaker john boehner says the people who need to take action are not in the oval office. >>> as the investigation continues into the deaths of four americans in libya we're learning people who were initially blamed are back on the payroll with little or no punishment. >>> unbelievable video. some aquariumgoers getting way too close to a real live shark. as close as you can get without becoming dinner. it is all "happening now." harris: hello, everyone, i'm harris faulkner, in today for jenna lee. jon: nice to have you up here in the big studio instead of down in the newsroom. harris: good to be here. jon: i'm jon scott. there is deadly weather pounding the united states. a powerful winter storm bringing snow and driving rain to the northeast. blizzard conditions in some areas. it is the same system that brought winter storms and tornados to the south and midwest. at least 12 people have died in this system. we're seeing major travel problems today as well. some areas are getting slammed all night long. an
harris: president obama cutting his vacation short to avoid the fiscal cliff but house speaker john boehner says the people who need to take action are not in the oval office. >>> as the investigation continues into the deaths of four americans in libya we're learning people who were initially blamed are back on the payroll with little or no punishment. >>> unbelievable video. some aquariumgoers getting way too close to a real live shark. as close as you can get without...
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he said he feels like we -- let's do a swan dive over the fiscal cliff. >> clayton: he wants the fiscal cliff, boling does. i don't know that that would be a smart move, given the sequestration and all of the defense cuts that we're about with to face if we go over that, that means a massive, massive cut to our military. >> juliet: his thing is, look, we got to start cutting this deficit down. we just got to start now. he said, i stand to lose a lot of money in this, but it's got to happen now. >> dave: he also said republicans should lead on immigration, which i thought was interesting. that also made my eyes go up. >> clayton: he said they're going to continue to lose election after election if they continue to do what they did as it relates to immigration reform. the senate this morning, look at the live look, capitol hill and the white house. the senate reconvenes at 11:00 a.m. this morning. the house is getting together around 9:00 a.m. this morning. again, wendell goler reporting they've been hashing out deals throughout the night. >> dave: if you want good information as it happe
he said he feels like we -- let's do a swan dive over the fiscal cliff. >> clayton: he wants the fiscal cliff, boling does. i don't know that that would be a smart move, given the sequestration and all of the defense cuts that we're about with to face if we go over that, that means a massive, massive cut to our military. >> juliet: his thing is, look, we got to start cutting this deficit down. we just got to start now. he said, i stand to lose a lot of money in this, but it's got to...
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it's a shame in this nation where every developed country in the world knows our fiscal cliff is our fiscal solvency you have to have these leverage points. sit down and solve the problem because we know it's our greatest threat. that's not the case here. we have a president who has not laid out a plan. is he on yulingsly a spendaholic. >> dave: here is the problem for republicans though. if there is no deal out of the senate he will say okay i need an up or down vote on the $250,000 up or down mark. if republicans want to go on record to say no on that. that's going to be very politically dangerous for john boehner in the house. that's the bottom line. >> juliet: i know you are getting a lot of tweets. mine is like i blame, this i blame that guy. it's interesting to hear what you guys have to say about that first, let's go to peter doocy. what happens this weekend as far as negotiations are concerned? mr. doocy standing by in washington. hello, pete. >> dave: hello peter. >> hello juliet, dave and clayton. we have been told about meetings about ways to avoid the fiscal cliff. not su
it's a shame in this nation where every developed country in the world knows our fiscal cliff is our fiscal solvency you have to have these leverage points. sit down and solve the problem because we know it's our greatest threat. that's not the case here. we have a president who has not laid out a plan. is he on yulingsly a spendaholic. >> dave: here is the problem for republicans though. if there is no deal out of the senate he will say okay i need an up or down vote on the $250,000 up...
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they're talking about the fiscal cliff, they're talking about raising taxes and cutting spending. the only thing that's been accomplished thus far is to raise spending by about a billion dollars a year. >> dave: i think in particular rubs americans the wrong way when they see this, members of congress average salary, 174,000. average american, $48,000. that's on top of the fact that we see all the time, they take off, these long recesses and oh, by the way not passing bills and on top of this, this was by executive order, the president did this himself. >> yeah, it was done late at night, obviously, not great politics. i'm not quite sure what the thought process is here, maybe they think it's going to somehow incentivize members of congress to move things in a certain direction, but again, i think it's a terrible idea. it shows the disconnect with the country. keep in mind, washington d.c. last year passed the silicon valley as the town now as the highest per capita income in the country. and this is going to add to that and it shows the disconnect between what i call the permanen
they're talking about the fiscal cliff, they're talking about raising taxes and cutting spending. the only thing that's been accomplished thus far is to raise spending by about a billion dollars a year. >> dave: i think in particular rubs americans the wrong way when they see this, members of congress average salary, 174,000. average american, $48,000. that's on top of the fact that we see all the time, they take off, these long recesses and oh, by the way not passing bills and on top of...
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any hope of going over the fiscal cliff must start in the senate. >> gretchen: a lot of people were upset because members of congress just can't seem to get their act together or the president, depending on which side of the fence that you're on of the they were upset that they went on christmas vacations. the president went to hawaii and members of congress went home. both sides said we're going to come back to washington because we've got to solve the situation. i think what so many people are frustrated about is this is an ongoing situation. it's like every year we come to this point where we're talk being this cliff and this is what i think has angered so many voters and why congress has such a low approval rating. >> rick: they also got to this point because of their last time they did this. it was the last debt creating fight that deleted this thing. now they gave themselves an amount of time to work on it you and thought maybe last week there was a little progress being made. turns out there is not. we're back to exactly where we started at and we're eight days out now. >> clayton:
any hope of going over the fiscal cliff must start in the senate. >> gretchen: a lot of people were upset because members of congress just can't seem to get their act together or the president, depending on which side of the fence that you're on of the they were upset that they went on christmas vacations. the president went to hawaii and members of congress went home. both sides said we're going to come back to washington because we've got to solve the situation. i think what so many...
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because president obama perfectly going over the fiscal cliff to blame republicans because he can't default on the debt. he will have to compromise between now and february. second of all the baseline gets reset if the tax cuts expire. everybody will propose a tax cut in january and right now we're fighting whether to increase taxes or not. you can see possibility of a deal seen as win-win for both sides. third, if republicans don't come up with a deal, a bad deal right now, they still have the $800 billion in revenue they put on the table from limiting deductions and loopholes that they can use to buy down rates. so i think the odds are, after january 1 we will get a deal and it will be much more favorable deal to the republican party because we'll have the leverage and president obama won't. heather: simon, basically what mark's laid out there would be more of a bunge jump over the cliff instead after nosedive, what do you think about the possibility, good thing or bad? >> i think it is going to happen whether it is good or bad. hopefully in the first week to 10 days of the new year with
because president obama perfectly going over the fiscal cliff to blame republicans because he can't default on the debt. he will have to compromise between now and february. second of all the baseline gets reset if the tax cuts expire. everybody will propose a tax cut in january and right now we're fighting whether to increase taxes or not. you can see possibility of a deal seen as win-win for both sides. third, if republicans don't come up with a deal, a bad deal right now, they still have the...